What do you want from DEOVR as from video streaming platform?

shtirly1

Hi. I am making flat 3D videos by double GoPro system. I tried to upload test video but the result is not good. Such type of video ( SBS_flat ) showed in player on very small virtual screen. Yes I know, I can use zoom option, but other users could not understand that it is possible. My GoPros have wide angle lenses so I increased zoom 1.5 times to get a realistic view. But left and right edges of the frame look not good. It would be better to player has a curved screen option like in YoutubeVR app and in Skybox Player. Also it would be better to specify the curvature and zoom parameter to file, like this for example: filenameCurved_SBS_150 , where "150" is view angle. This wiew angle is wide enough, almost like 180 degree but anyway smaller, so I can't use 180 degree mode for my videos. But quality of my videos are very good, so I can offer good content to users.
Sorry if my English is not good. English is not my native language. My language is Russian. I am Russian living in Australia 3 years, and I am still not good English speaker. Kirill, your name looks like Russian or Ukrainian or Belarus, can you speak in Russian?

tomsh

shtirly1
i think there might be a bug in the standalone app. if you play your videos on the steam pcvr version of deovr, does it look better?
https://forum.deovr.com/d/1217-full-sbs-videos-are-displayed-stretched-falsely-treated-as-half-sbs

shtirly1

tomsh Yes, you are right, there one more problem now, I even didn't know about this new problem. But before this problem appeared there was the problem I reviewed in my previous message. When I increase zoom 1.5 times sides are becoming narrowed.
So I think it is good idea to add an option of curved screen. Videos sre filmed by camera with wide angle lense look better with curved screen and zooming to reach view angle equal to view angle of lense. And also it would be better to specify these parameters in file attributes before uploading, because most of users can't use advanced futures of the player

shtirly1

tomsh What about DeoVR player by PCVR. It is sad but Deo VR works not well on my PC, quality of picture is not good. I am using Meta Quest 2. This is strange, because my PC is powerful enough and Half Life Alyx works very well on ultra graphics settings.

boboweb

Kirill

So what happened with your 10K rig ??

Kirill

boboweb we have internal discussion about this rig right now. Biggest problem is a software side.

tomsh

shtirly1
it seems like you assume i'm somebody from the deovr support team.
i'm not.
i'm just a user like you.😅

shtirly1

tomsh
No, I didn't assume that 😁 .
But I think you need the same for your vudeos to they become better. I watched your videos before, when they was with normal aspects ratio. When I watched them I also increased zoom, and they look better with zoom.
But one problem was there, I remember. There was a discomfort when I was looking to the horizon. Maybe it was with only your old videos or not, maybe you solved this problem already. Long time ago, when I started my 3D filming hobby, I made same mistake. I oriented my cameras not parallel, they were turned a bit to each other. So result was same. Very uncomfortable to eyes. Now I am orienting cameras only parallel.

tomsh

shtirly1
i just really like side by side drone footage. do you have any of your videos uploaded somewhere yet like on youtube maybe? i would like to see them 🤗
unfortunatly i don't have a drone and this isn't my channel. i just linked that channel as an example for flat full sbs content that is affected by this software bug.
also the videos you see there aren't filmed with an two lense camera system. if you read the video caption you will learn that these videos are just mono drone footage taken from video platforms like youtube, then converted to a side by side picture using ai technology. the effect is fascinating. i don't know how it works, but i think maybe they just delay one side by a few frames or something like that.😋

shtirly1

tomsh Wow! 3D by ai, this is interesting.

My youtube channel:
Alex Siberian in Australia
I am making only hiking videos.

shtirly1

tomsh
Hi mate. Is it you commented on this my video?:
Hike at Bombo park near Kiama, Australia
I tried to reply but something happening wrong, my message not sent on that page.
I did not found a way to send you a private message as well. So I will write the copy of my answer here:

How I made this video? I spent many many hours for experiments and found this way:
I am creating a project with 8192x4096 resolution in Adobe Premiere Pro. Then I am adding video from left camera to video track #1, video from right camera to track #2. Then I am synchronizing videos. How I am synchronizing? When I start recording video I am clicking fingers in front of cameras, and when I am editing videos I am connecting frames with this click to one point on timeline. Next step is changing the location and scaling frames. For video #1 (left) location is 2048 , 2048 , scale is 150. For video #2 (right) location is 6144 , 2048 , scale is the same: 150. Last step is adding Lens Distortion effect with curvature 29 for both (left & right) videos. These parameters are suitable for only GoPro 1080p video. For 4k video scale parameter will be different. Cameras with different lenses need different distortion parameter. Also cameras with different view angle need different scale.
I tried to do the same in Sony Vegas editor, but Vegas not supports 8192x4096 resolution for now.

tomsh

shtirly1
yes, it was me. thanks for your answer! since i don't have Adobe i won't be able to try this myself.
i really like your youtube videos. this one is my favorite https://youtu.be/El8Ju36VSh8
beautiful spot. an almost unedited one shot. slow movements. super immersive!

shtirly1

@Kirill
Can you tell me please, Kirill , how can I become a premium creator?
I would like to upload short variants of my 3D hiking videos for free, and full videos for premium users.
I know, my videos are in good quality and also I know that only few video makers are filming videos when hiking at National Parks and also extremal hikes. I have many filmed videos which I still not prepared to upload, and I will make them soon. For example you can see this my video:
Bungonia Gorge, Australia. Hiking
I am planning to increase the quality of my videos. I was filming my flat 3D videos in only 1080p quality, because I was only making videos for Youtube, and I will be filming in 4k next my hike, since DeoVR allows better quality.

Kirill

shtirly1 Hey! Please email me at kirill@deovr.com. I'll try to ask all your questions. Feel free to use russian language.

shtirly1

tomsh
Thank you mate

Mike-Urilorib

All 3D videos I have in my PC are Half SBS. So that's a basic feature DeoVR is still missing for some reason...

philpw99

Agree with @Mike-Urilorib . DeoVR seems aggressively seeking expansion and software improvement, but still didn't restore this very basic function which we have been asking for years.
What is stopping the whole DeoVR team from scaling the render video to 2x horizontally? I couldn't think of any reason why DeoVR is never able to do it, or even promise to fix it.
This missing function only drove hundreds, if not thousands, of DeoVR users to find a different solution. I gladly paid SkyBox $10 in Quest 2, only because they do provide this basic function. And as a result, I use SkyBox a lot more than DeoVR in Quest 2.
Well, if only DeoVR offer this function as something like "premier feature" for $10. That $10 could have been yours, and I didn't have to get the SkyBox app.

huebi123

Yes, standard 3D half sidy by side would be a good option.

And I have a slow DeoVR upload around 15 - 20 MBit/s. I wait longer for upload a file, then render the 8K video.

KatDEO

Thank you for the suggestions. I am passing this info on to our devs team.

KuyaQuatro

Community tools, I'm referring to things like:

The ability to comment in-app
The ability to like a video (and not just favorite it)
Viewing a subscriptions-only feed (currently when you slick on subscriptions, it's just their channel IDs, not the latest videos they uploaded)
NOTIFICATIONS FOR COMMENTS. I get ZERO notifications on whether someone replied to my comment, liked it, etc.

These are all things that help viewers become fans of creators, build audience communities, build creator communities, and just connect people. What's the point of uploading content if we can't even get feedback on our work? Currently in order for me to comment on someone's video, I need to do the following:

I watch it in-app, and if I like it...
I favorite it
I go to my desktop and login to the deovr website
I go to my favorites to re-find the video
Then I click in to leave a comment

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