Rules of videos listing

tubep

Does anybody tell me the rules of videos listing?

As for my latest video case "[MMD] Amaha Sora dancing Idol and AI" https://deovr.com/zl2dyx (with the tag "dance") which I posted on Dec. 5,

It appears with the "dance" tag on the new list
https://deovr.com/categories/dance-vr?sort=new
But it is NOT on the new list
https://deovr.com/videos?sort=new

Sometimes even worse. At the case of "[MMD] Dog girls in rabbit costume at Rithym" of Nov. 24 at
https://deovr.com/d2mmrj (with the "dance" tag), it never comes on:
https://deovr.com/videos?sort=new
https://deovr.com/categories/dance-vr?sort=new
It is visible only on my channel :
https://deovr.com/channel/tubep

Similarly, some of my videos are not listed. For examples:
Nov 29 https://deovr.com/8ss3lf ... OK
Nov 25 https://deovr.com/xca82n ... not listed
Nov 25 https://deovr.com/zhwnp9 ... OK
Nov 24 https://deovr.com/d2mmrj ... not listed
Nov 12 https://deovr.com/p17ean ... OK
If you visit https://deovr.com/channel/tubep , you can find the videos of lower views cannot be found on videos list while the others can be.

Did I do something wrong on uploading my videos?
(I wonder DEO reviewers secretly force some of my videos to be "unlisted" visibility ???)

DraiKo

tubep Hello, hope you are doing well.

I was checking your videos, and the ones that are marked as no listed, they are marked as suggestive, so they will appear only if you activate the filter in your left side that says "sandbox".

hope this answers your question.

kind regards

tubep

DraiKo Dear DraiKo, thank you very much for the reply.
Yes, I have one https://deovr.com/2y5jwa as marked "unlisted" (with the title of "(test) [MMD] Gura and Rushia at double lariat") as for the test (Nov.28). Actually, this is the same post (same video) of the past https://deovr.com/sv9l4z (Nov.25), which does not appear on the video listing...
FYI, I have just turned the visibility to "public" on https://deovr.com/2y5jwa (Nov.28) now, but yet neither of them can be found in the video listing.
They appear on the list with the "dance" tag.
https://deovr.com/categories/dance-vr?sort=new
But they are NOT on the new (default) list.
https://deovr.com/videos?sort=new

I appreciate it if you could further investigate my situation!

tubep

tubep To test one more time, I have uploaded "[MMD] Three fairies dancing dream fighter again" now (2023/12/06, around 02:15 JST).

Video format: sbs2l left-right
View angle: 180
Camera type: (leave blank)
Categories: dance
Thumbnail: given
Subtitle: (not set)
Visibility: Public (Automatically publish after processing: yes)

P.S. I have more than 300 VR180 videos in my stock, so I can try so many times ...

DraiKo

hey hello tubep they are here in the first layer when you activate the "sandbox" filter https://deovr.com/videos?type=sandbox

tubep

DraiKo Dear DraiKo, thank you very much for informing me of the "sandbox" tag. Could you kindly tell me the role of the tag? I have never specified "sandbox" in categories (probably nor the other creators in the sandbox listing...). If I can remove the sandbox tag, is the video on the default list? (But how?? as it is not on the categories on editing the upload video status)

By the way, my new post (No.15970) is open now (three hours ago, 23:00? 2023/12/06 JST).
So I can directly show you the problem here.
I have two posts, I uploaded them completely in the same setup. They are:
No.15970 (Dec.6) https://deovr.com/y1qi8z [MMD] Three fairies dancing dream fighter again
No.15903 (Dec.5) https://deovr.com/zl2dyx [MMD] Amaha Sora dancing Idol and AI
video upload status:

Now, 15970 is on the default new list while 15903 is NOT when I access the video list with new sorting.
https://deovr.com/videos?sort=new
New-Page1:

New-Page2:

Only when I set the keyword dance, both 15970 and 15903 are on the list.
https://deovr.com/categories/dance-vr?sort=new
New-Dance-Page1:

(About half of my uploaded video are in the same or similar (worse) situations)

Could kindly tell me why it happens and what I should do to let my all the videos at https://deovr.com/videos ?
Thank you in advance.

tubep

tubep P.S.
I think No.15903 should be placed somewhere before the "Sunworld Skate Dance ( Bana Hills )" video on https://deovr.com/videos?sort=new ...

tubep

tubep P.S.2 I always mark "dance" on the categories box when I upload videos (including No. 15970 and 15903).

KatDEO

tubep Hello! I've just sent you a follow up email with more info. Thank you!

tubep

KatDEO Hi KatDEO, I have received "[New Post] Rules of videos listing" email from DeoVR noreply@forum.deovr.com and one more about one hour ago (probably the same time you posted your messages), but they are just telling the new posts from you (katDEO and Draiko). Could you kindly double check the email including some info is sent to me (mmd.tube.p[at]gmail.com, replacing [at] by at-mark)?

spinningblade

I am also curious about the rules for having videos listed. I have been uploading Flat 3D videos for the past few weeks and each video has been getting a few hundred views. The past couple of videos I've uploaded do not show up in the search results unless I click the "Sandbox" filter. I still have no idea what the "Sandbox" filter does...it was just added to the site without any proper explanation. I assumed it is where some mature/adult content gets hidden away. (even though there is plenty of mature content all over DeoVR's main site) So now, my Avatar video is hidden in the Sandbox filter with a bunch of adult Asian girl videos: screenshot

DraiKo

spinningblade Hello, I just asked the Dev team to know why is this happening, I'll let you know what they say as soon as they answer.

have a great day.

DraiKo

spinningblade hello, we reviewed your videos and moved them from the sandbox, this has been reported and should happen again, if it does, please feel free to reach me out,

have a great day

spinningblade

Thank you

DraiKo

spinningblade no problem,

just as a suggestion, please dont add the wording Test to the tittles or comments, because the algorithm sends it to sandbox, this because most Test videos dont have always good quality, because they are more testing 🙂.

thanks

spinningblade

DraiKo Good to know. That makes sense.

tubep

DraiKo Dear DraiKo, if possible, Could you ask DEO to put https://deovr.com/zl2dyx to the front page (currently in sandbox). The other 14 videos are OK to be at mature/sandbox catgory, but the one is for normal watching ...

tubep

Hi DraiKo, please move all of my (probably 15) videos in sandbox to the main part like spinningblade.
I think it is better to provide a way at the creator side to enable this action...

spinningblade

tubep I think one of the reasons for the Sandbox category is to remove some of the mature/adult videos away from the front page. If so, I think they intentionally moved your videos to Sandbox since they consist of anime girls barely wearing any clothes. Just my guess. Your videos are still searchable for anyone who searches for that type of content, though.

tubep

tubep If the sandbox is used as mature category, I withdraw my request of moving my 15 videos to the front page .

tubep

spinningblade Yeah, if DEO rename sandbox to R18 or adult, or at least the declare sandbox is for such purpose, I am quite OK to follow the rule and I will try to learn the borderline of good and nsfw. Currently, no one tells the meaning of sandbox, which is not good for everyone. (If they agree to use sandbox as adult, I want to have the option to tag "sandbox" for my some mature videos by myself like I do at YouTube / iwara...)