Quest 3: No 120 Hz Option

g4plm

Yeah it's really lame how you can't do PCVR with 120Hz on the Quest 3 but on the Quest 2 you can, disappointed. Hope the devs add the option soon

boboweb

g4plm how you can't do PCVR with 120Hz on the Quest 3 but on the Quest 2 you can

Actually for me it works - 120hz on Quest3 and DeoVR trough VirtualDesktop . The problem is with Quest3 alone version ...

qaruk

boboweb I do not have VD, is that a work around when the Quest 3 is wired? or does it work wireless too?
thanks!

boboweb

qaruk
VD is wireless only . I highly recommend it . Just get the VD Quest version from Meta store but not the Steam version.

qaruk

boboweb do you notice any difference between deoVR alone (72 or 90 hz) vs deoVR + VD at 120hz? I mean, does it worth buying VD just for that?
thanks!!

boboweb

Just found a way to enable 120Hz on quest standalone version of DeoVR . QuestGamesOptimizer works fine on Quest 3 and DeoVR . You can enable 120Hz and to increase the render resolution too .

boboweb

qaruk do you notice any difference between deoVR alone (72 or 90 hz) vs deoVR + VD at 120hz? I mean, does it worth buying VD just for that?
thanks!!

The short answer for me is Yes ! Especially if you have more powerful GPU like RTX 3060 and above .
On PC with more powerful GPU you can always get more fps and more smooth playback . If you set VD to 200mbit AV1 or 500mbit h264 encoding you cant really notice any compression artefacts as most of the VR180 vids are sub 100mbit bitrate . On VD you can choose to increase color vibrance and contrast . But the most important is that you can upscale a lot the original render resolution at Godlike or Ultra mods , and set over 200% Super Sampling in SteamVR settings . This makes the vids looks really better . The sharpness correction doesnt make your fps drops in half too . You can enable Snapdragon Game super Resolution. But the most important of all is that you can set 120Hz combined with SSW (Synchronous Spacewarp) and this really makes the 60fps vids looks noticeably smoother - feels very close to real 120fps ... And this is UNIQUE feature for VD and PC VR ... Once you get used to it thats smoothness of SSW and then back to standalone headset video play i am always got the feeling the playback is little choppy ... But i cant explain it so good - everyone have to try it for himself and to judge ! For me personally this is the best possible way so far even standalone DeoVR version tuned with QuestGamesOptimizer become close already ! As a bonus you get longer battery times when you use PC DeoVR .

qaruk

boboweb sounds interesting!! I have exactly a RTX 3060 and a lot to learn too, many thanks for your answer!!

philpw99

boboweb
Wow ! Thank you for your advice ! I gotta try this myself.

qaruk

boboweb hi again! I just tried both, VD and QGO with DeoVR to set 120hz and improve image quality, I clearly see a big improvement with VD but not with QGO, I mean, at least in terms of smoothness VD is awesome but I do not see the difference with QGO at 120hz + DeoVR, maybe VD is superior because of that option that you mentioned, SSW?
and I have another question, are you able to watch passthrough videos with alpha channel on VD + DeoVR? I can only watch them properly using DeoVR alone. If I use VD + DeoVR with passthrough videos I just get the black screen and the alpha channel does nothing

spyro

@boboweb
Joined Nov 30, 2020
Thank you. Guess, we have to fix this ourself then. At least, we can.

boboweb

qaruk

Hi qaruk , yes you are right in terms of smoothness VD with enabled SSW and 120Hz is the best . 120hz at standalone wont bring you any better smoothness actually as the videos that you watch are just 60fps .If you try some 5K 120fps vids then you will notice better smoothness .The good thing of SSW is that makes 60fps vids looks like 120.
Otherwise QGO can brings you better picture quality in terms of resolution and details even at 90hz or 72hz.
About the PT vids - unfortunately currently there is no way for proper watching PT vids for PCVR . There is an option in VD that allows you to enable PT (at 90Hz or lower). You can try it and try to tune different PT color values in VD while you watching some PT vid on DeoVR but i never could get a proper results. So for now standalone DeoVR still the best option for PT alpha vids and HereSphere (standalone) for the Czech ARs because in DeoVR czechAR vids get some very annoying greenish tint . Hope DeoVR will fix this asap ...

spyro

Would indeed be great if this could be fixed before the heat death of the universe.

boboweb

spyro

Well i dont know my friend ... here the things going really slow ... lol I am still waiting they fix thumbsticks for steam version .
Btw - do you have such issue like described in this topic ? https://forum.deovr.com/d/2234-quest-3-thumbsticks-dont-work-on-steam-version

qaruk

boboweb I have the same issue and using the oculus version of DeoVR is even worse because the thumbsticks do weird things, like going back to the previous menu instead of scrolling down, really annoying

boboweb

qaruk

Ok thanks ! I was sure you also will have troubles with the thumbsticks because i know many other users had already .
You can join and support me in the dedicated topic above .

qaruk

boboweb hi there! I just checked the latest release, 13.13, the thumbsticks work fine now through VD + SteamVR + DeoVR but I can see some artifacts now when playing videos, like some flickering and weird things, so, for me using VD + deoVR with this release is not worthy

the good news is that now I can select 120Hz on standalone DeoVR, so, now it seems that the problem from the original post is actually solved @spyro

boboweb

Yes I can confirm that the 120Hz for the standalone v13.13 is fixed !

spyro

This is great news! 🙂
But is it still a static setting or is the correct refresh rate automatically choosen depending on the video framerate to be in sync with the display?

E.g.

72 fps -> 72 Hz
90 fps -> 90 Hz
24/30/60/120 fps -> 120Hz

spyro

Ok, just ignore me then 😐

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