VRidge - Controls not following movement and below screen

Khanzo

I have been using DeoVR in Steam VR via RiftCat VRidge for a while, but since yesterday the controller "pointers" are stuck below the screen. Here is a screenshot of me looking down: https://imgur.com/a/zNG5mFc

Notice that the Steam controllers appear far away from me, and they are not following my movements. And it only happens in DeoVR.

I have no idea if this problem is related to DeoVR, SteamVR, VRidge or my smartphone (but I would probably guess it is related to DeoVR because other apps seem to work just fine)

I have already tried:
- Re-installing DeoVR (I have even deleted DeoVR folder in /AppData/LocalLow and DeoVR keys in windows registry editor)
- Re-installing SteamVR
- Re-installing Steam
- Reinstalling VRidge on my smartphone
- Using DeoVR + SteamVR + VRidge on another computer
- Using DeoVR with another steam account

But nothing seems to work. Could anybody please give me some help?

philpw99

Don't use VRidge to emulate the controllers.
Or you can use VRidge to emulate a Xbox controller with keyboard only.
Then use phone's own sensors to "look at" the DeoVR screen.
The upcoming DeoVR will support keyboard and mouse. Then you don't need VRidge to emulate anything.

Khanzo

I would rather not use keyboard and mouse. I use VRidge with a Xbox controller to emulate the steam controllers because I like to be away from the computer and the controller gives me more freedom to move around.

philpw99

I remember in VRidge there is a keyboard key to "raise the angle of the pointer". I forgot which key, and VRidge now is no longer in my system so I don't know which. Or it was the mouse wheel?
In DeoVR, you can use just the "6DF head tracking" and XBox controller's A and B button to do almost everything. No need for Vive controller's emulation.

Khanzo

I guess what you are talking about is the mouse wheel, where we first have to select the degree that we want to adjust (angle, height, distance between vive controllers or "distance towards the wall" - sorry, I don't know their actual names lol) by pressing 1/2/3/4 keys on keyboard and then using the mouse wheel. Is that right?

If so, the problem is that the "laser pointer" is not following these adjustments. I.e., even if I do a full 180º on the vive controller angle, the "laser pointer" is still looking at the same direction, while the vive controllers are visually changing direction. And the same happens for all the other degrees of adjustments.

PS: these adjustments can also be done in XBox controller mode, by switching the "degree" with the D-pad.

And I agree that it is possible to do almost everything using just the head tracking with the XBox A and B buttons when using the keyboard mode on VRidge (and that is exactly what I am doing right now as a temporary measure), but unfortunately it is not possible to do EVERYTHING. For instance, if I start a video and the controls pane is too far away from me, I have to "walk" towards the pane. When I use the XBox controller mode in VRidge, it would be done by simply moving the analog stick. But then again, if I use the XBox mode, the A and B buttons are no longer functional since they conflict with the emulation itself (which theoretically would not be a problem if the triggers were working correctly, except they are not working because of that laser pointer problem). And if I use the keyboard mode in VRidge, it would be done using the WASD keys. But then again, I would like to do it away from the computer, just like I always did.

Am I missing something here?

philpw99

Khanzo
Sorry that I didn't really know your situation. Had to guess what it is.
I only remembers that I had some difficulties using the vive controllers in VRidge as well, because the "laser pointer" are in the wrong direction. Then once I knew how to use the mouse wheel to adjust the tilting angle, the problem is fixed.

What I don't understand is why the control panel is not right in front of you? You don't have lighthouse tracking, right? How is possible that the panel comes up too far? Oh, also there is a "UI distance" setting in DeoVR, maybe that's the fix?

Here is their documents about the controls:
https://support.riftcat.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001951280-How-to-use-keyboard-mouse-and-Xbox-controller-integrations
I know there is not much help, well...

Khanzo

First of all, after reading carefully your considerations, I have thought of a nice workaround: I have unbound just the A and B buttons in VRidge emulation for XBox controller. Now, I can move around using the left analog stick, use the nice re-center feature with the Start button, and since the A and B buttons are no longer binded to VRidge, they fall back to the default behavior of DeoVR. The triggers with the laser pointer are still not working properly, but at least now I can do anything with the head tracking combined with walking movements and A/B buttons. So, thank you very much for your assistance. It was a nice brainstorm session lol

Second, it is worth noting that the original problem still persists. What I have done is just a paliative measure, that should not even be necessary. To help illustrate the problem in case it's not clear I have recorded my screen. You can check the video in this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kuA7BTjArV5G9nTkWU7Pg2uWsWHwj1qv/view

In this video, you can see that I change the position of the controllers in every degree, but the pointers never follow the direction the controllers are pointing to (and by the way, they are not below my screen because they kind of "teleport" back to me when I walk with the left analog stick). I also shake my head to show that the head tracking doesn't affect their direction as well. I also walk around, and again the pointers do not keep up with me.

philpw99

Khanzo Ah... Now I really see your problem. Very nice and clever fix !