Quest 3 + SteamVR Thumbstick ABXY not registering (still)

Garbz

I've been following the discussions on Quest 3 controller issues with interest and I see it is fixed for most people, so this question here may be more related to how to do a hard reset of my configuration. (Or if anyone else knows what action to take to get it to work).

Situation:
Quest 3 using DeoVR in the Quest App (via Airlink or cable) works just fine (though Airlink has rubbish visual quality).
Quest 3 using DeoVR in SteamVR via SteamLink or via Airlink does not work. In the controller settings menu it seems the controllers are detected as Windows Mixed Reality controllers, and the thumbstick direction, A,B,X and Y buttons do not register inputs (all other buttons work).

I see a lot of work went into this in December, but it hasn't been fixed for me. I've tried the following:
Uninstalling DeoVR
Uninstalling SteamVR
Deleting all SteamVR related config files from the Steam folder.
Deleting all DeoVR related config files from %Appdata%
Deleting all DeoVR keys from HKEY_CURRENT_USER in the registry.
Reinstalling the lot.

Is there something I'm missing, or some config in Steam which can confuse DeoVR into thinking that my controllers are WMR controllers instead of Quest 3 controllers?

Kieshi

Please check your OpenXR settings, try to disable OpenXR and see if it helps

Garbz

Kieshi Thanks for responding.
I tried having a look at the OpenXR settings in SteamVR. No combination could be found that made it work.

Currently the OpenXR runtime is set to Oculus. I tried setting it to SteamVR, but this caused no change in DeoVR when launched from Steam. It did however break DeoVR launched from the Oculus App.

Additionally I tried all three options of "Meta Plugin Compatibility". This did have an effect on the controller, but not a good one. Results:

Oculus App : OpenXR Runtime Oculus : Everything works as expected except for usual Oculus downsides.
Oculus App : OpenXR Runtime SteamVR : DeoVR fails to launch
SteamVR : OpenXR Runtime Oculus : Meta Plugin Compatibility Off : Controllers detect as WMR - don't work.
SteamVR : OpenXR Runtime SteamVR : Meta Plugin Compatibility Off : Controllers detect as WMR - don't work.
SteamVR : OpenXR Runtime Oculus : Meta Plugin Compatibility On / Auto: Controllers detect as Xbox controller - don't appear at all in VR but do respond to button inputs.
SteamVR : OpenXR Runtime SteamVR : Meta Plugin Compatibility On / Auto : Controllers detect as WMR - don't appear at all in VR but do respond to button inputs.

I am not sure what you mean by disabling OpenXR. How do I go about doing this? I found no options to do so in Steam or in the DeoVR app.

I also tried disabling Steam Input with no effect.

Kieshi

Garbz in SteamVR settings under SteamVR->Settings->OpenXR->Meta Plugin Compatibility=Off
Could you try this please and let me know if it has any effect?

Garbz

Kieshi Yes that is what I tried above. Meta Plugin Compatibility always was off. When this is done it is detected as a WMR controller. If I turn plugin compatibility to On or Automatic DeoVR detects the controllers as a generic xbox controller (and reverts to pointing input from headset view, just like it would if you use the keyboard while wearing a headset).

Kieshi

Garbz just checking, are you using Visual desktop with SteamVR?

Garbz

Kieshi No, I'm using SteamLink + SteamVR. I can also confirm the controllers work in all my other games/apps.

/EDIT: I should also mention that before SteamLink was released I similarly had the same problems using AirLink / QuestLink with the SteamVR version of DeoVR. But that being said, this was back when everyone was reporting these problems.

Kieshi

Garbz Could you please send me a screenshot of the OpenXR Runtime settings, when you set it to Oculus?

Garbz

Kieshi Are these the ones you're talking about:
First shows SteamVR as the default handler.
Second shows that Oculus App complains about this.
Third shows Oculus as the default handler, and the Steam complains about this.

I should mention this has something to do with Airlink vs Steamlink. I made a mistake in my original post. When I use Airlink and then start SteamVR and then start DeoVR from steam it does in fact work correctly. But ultimately my goal here is to get rid of Airlink since it's performance, visual quality, and the way audio is passed through are quite poor compared to Steamlink.

Kieshi

Garbz so the setup is Quest 3, Steam VR and Steamlink? This is where the controllers are not working?

Garbz

Kieshi Correct.

Quest 3 > Steamlink > SteamVR not working.
Quest 3 > Airlink > SteamVR is working.
I don't have virtual desktop so I can't test that one.